# Wled Turning Off Randomly **URL:** \ **Category:** Issues\ **Created:** [December 10, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://wled.discourse.group/t/wled-turning-off-randomly/4295 "2021-12-10T00:19:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![akong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19b73/32.png) [@akong](https://wled.discourse.group/u/akong)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://wled.discourse.group/t/wled-turning-off-randomly/4295/1 "2021-12-10T00:19:35Z")
I have multiple presets saved. These are numbered 3-13. I have one preset to turn off (T=0) at preset 2. So it should not cycle through the off preset. I have the preset cycle to start at 3 and last is 13 with a couple minutes between presets. I have configured a timer to come on at a certain time and start on preset 3. This should run and cycle through for a few hours. Lights come on just fine and seems to cycle through. But when I go back and check a few hours later all the lights are off. Driving me crazy. Do I need to remove the Off preset? If so, how would I automatically turn off the lights. What else could cause the lights to turn off before scheduled? UPDATE: For some reason all my lights turn off at the start of each hour. No idea why Thanks for the help. ---
**Author:** ![Artacus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/wled.discourse.group/artacus/32/1258_2.png) [@Artacus](https://wled.discourse.group/u/Artacus)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://wled.discourse.group/t/wled-turning-off-randomly/4295/2 "2021-12-11T18:17:38Z")
I typically put my control presets beginning at 100. You might try that. ---
**Author:** ![akong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19b73/32.png) [@akong](https://wled.discourse.group/u/akong)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://wled.discourse.group/t/wled-turning-off-randomly/4295/3 "2021-12-13T01:16:39Z")
Thanks. Gave it a try over the weekend and same issues. I think it might be the preset cycle feature. Regardless, I’ve set timers to turn on the lights 1 minute past the hour for the number of hours I want them on. On the good news side, I do not need an off timer. ---
**Author:** ![akong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19b73/32.png) [@akong](https://wled.discourse.group/u/akong)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://wled.discourse.group/t/wled-turning-off-randomly/4295/4 "2021-12-14T22:24:45Z")
Quick update. I removed the OFF (T=0) from my favorites and that seemed to keep my lights on and even through all the cycles. Wondering why having that as a favorite (even though I did not have it as a time-controlled preset) would turn off my lights. Also, if that is the only way to keep my lights on, any ideas on how to automatically turn off my lights at a certain time? ---
**Author:** ![Artacus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/wled.discourse.group/artacus/32/1258_2.png) [@Artacus](https://wled.discourse.group/u/Artacus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://wled.discourse.group/t/wled-turning-off-randomly/4295/5 "2021-12-14T23:41:59Z")
Personally, I’d upgrade to 0.13 beta and use playlists instead of preset cycle. Technically playlists are supported in 0.12 but 0.13 adds a playlist editor and drops preset cycle all together. Playlists are much nicer. ---
**Author:** ![akong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19b73/32.png) [@akong](https://wled.discourse.group/u/akong)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://wled.discourse.group/t/wled-turning-off-randomly/4295/6 "2021-12-15T00:14:38Z")
Thank you. I will give that a try. I’ve had issues trying to flash, but I’ll give it a try. ---
**Author:** ![akong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19b73/32.png) [@akong](https://wled.discourse.group/u/akong)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://wled.discourse.group/t/wled-turning-off-randomly/4295/7 "2021-12-16T03:04:32Z")
Quick update that might be able to help someone else. I upgraded to 0.13b and like it better with the playlist. I think the cause of my problem was that I wanted my lights to turn off at midnight and I had it set to hour 24. That is when the lights would turn off at each hour. Well, I changed it to turn off at hour 0 and that seems to keep my lights on and turn off at midnight. Silly error on my end. Thanks for those who replied.